tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post4122552606616081159..comments2024-03-18T10:39:13.524-04:00Comments on Bikes and Playgrounds: Velo Orange Camargue IntroductionEric Daumehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08910609725656013290noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-18197978625175248602014-08-21T10:27:42.397-04:002014-08-21T10:27:42.397-04:00Funny to be called 'Gita.' That's my ...Funny to be called 'Gita.' That's my gmail address, named after my dog. <br /><br />I'm not sure if a double derailleur will help or not, I think it may be a matter of just trying a different one. The XT's cage is pretty flared out on the right for some reason which strikes the crank arm if positioned so that the chain doesn't rub the inner right side of the cage. I guess it's a combination of low Q factor with the WI crank and too much flex somewhere showing up as a 'wobble' in the crank rings when I crank hard. I'm pretty confident there is nothing wrong with the BB or the crank, and have had two bike shop mechanics triple check for me (I did the install). <br /><br />The frames flexiness is very apparent by standing off the bike, holding the seat and Hbars and pushing at the BB with your foot. I'm sure it adds to the great ride but the chain rub is driving me nuts. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />BenBen RMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172861819783587890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-62370465603543187142014-08-20T18:22:02.034-04:002014-08-20T18:22:02.034-04:00Gita, a very nice build! Much more coordinated tha...Gita, a very nice build! Much more coordinated than mine, with nice WI cranks and drilled brake levers to boot.<br /><br />I haven't had any issues with front derailer rub. Won't a double FD make it worse, with the narrower cage and all?<br /><br />I currently have some ~35mm Hutchinson tires on mine, since I couldn't fit fenders over the knobbies shown above.Eric Daumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910609725656013290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-14550557829801625692014-08-20T10:40:46.573-04:002014-08-20T10:40:46.573-04:00Great build! I've got a 59cm Camargue and have...Great build! I've got a 59cm Camargue and have been having trouble with the chain rubbing the front derailleur when I am cranking hard. It seems to be due to the frame flexing. It's set up with a wide-double White Industries crank (44/26) and an XT front derailleur. Its a triple FD so I am hoping by switching to a double FD there will be a bit more spacial tolerance to accommodate the flex. I was wondering if you have noticed this in the frame or had any similar issues. <br /><br />Overall I am really loving the bike. It incredibly smooth and confident. I also like your tire choice. I have 50mm Schwalbe Marathons on it now, but am considering AT tire options as the bike seems to keep pulling me into any dirt I pass...<br /><br />Pics of my build if you are interested are here: http://goo.gl/5QiQ58Ben RMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172861819783587890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-75617277255097404142014-07-17T15:45:50.872-04:002014-07-17T15:45:50.872-04:00Thanks for posting these photos and comments. My 6...Thanks for posting these photos and comments. My 62cm Camargue arrived today. I'll be building it with an Alfine 8-speed hub, Continental Contact Comfort tires, and a Soma Junebug bar, for pedaling unpaved rail trails.Wes Ewellhttp://twofootartist.com/dirt-trail-camargue-bike/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-17313286950839402752014-07-10T09:20:16.145-04:002014-07-10T09:20:16.145-04:00Thanks for the response. That's right, I forg...Thanks for the response. That's right, I forgot you don't like dropbars. Well, when you get around to "Camargue vs. X" post, I'll read with interest. BTW, I like your playground and S24O posts too; gives me ideas for rides to take with my own kids. Cheers!John https://www.blogger.com/profile/05101805415755063308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-9236836289253425692014-07-09T12:40:37.360-04:002014-07-09T12:40:37.360-04:00Hi John,
Thanks for your comments, as always. I&#...Hi John,<br /><br />Thanks for your comments, as always. I'll probably do a later post of "Camargue vs. X" when I have some more time on it.<br /><br />I haven't tried it off road yet--I used my mountain biking time last weekend to try out the new CF frame. More on that later.<br /><br />The long stays do add some stability, but it still seems as zippy as my CC. The long rear end does make it hard to pick up the front while riding, though. But I like the smooth ride they help impart.<br /><br />I keep my bar height pretty constant amongst my road bikes (bars 0-1" or so above the saddle, so I don't think that makes much difference. Really, it all comes down to the front end: a lower trail bike has a lighter steering feel, and is more responsive to handlebar input, while a higher trail bike take more force with the bars, and steers better from the hips. This is one reason low trail bikes often have narrow bars--they don't need so much leverage to turn (though I like wider bars from a fit standpoint, having wide shoulders).<br /><br />Another way to think about it is the handling cliche "it corners like it's on rails." This is true of higher trail bikes: they corner on a given line, and they're harder to move off that line. Whether that's good or bad is up to the rider.Eric Daumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910609725656013290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4962332031207942496.post-42888532345724917612014-07-08T18:06:39.210-04:002014-07-08T18:06:39.210-04:00Seatboy - totally awesome! I'd say I have add...Seatboy - totally awesome! I'd say I have addresses in both the canti and v-brake caves. I love v-brakes for their shear utility, but cantilevers are like lightsabers - an elegant brake for a more civilized age. And a well set up wide profile canti modulates nicely too. Well, I have a zillion questions about the Camargue. Where to start? Have you tried it offroad yet? How does it compare with your old Gen 1 Fargo or Singular Gryphon on the singletrack? Do those super long chainstays zap any of the zip or is it still a pretty peppy ride? In what way do you like the handling better than your Cross Check? Do you suppose your upright handlebars contribute to the light steering? Oh, that's probably enough for now. Anyway, nice bike! Hope it works out in the long run.John https://www.blogger.com/profile/05101805415755063308noreply@blogger.com